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All I can say about it is "CYA"

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Hello Frog,

This is what we do:

We divide it into two parts: One is written (50 questions) and one is practical (hands on) evaluations. We use the meat buyers guide (NAMP numbers and pictures).

In the Written- its from sanitation, temperatures, procedures, primal, sub primals and portion cuts of beef, pork, lamb and veal. Chicken is very easy (usually grades or

classifications) a question would look like this.

The New York strip steak is fabricated from which Beef primal        a. Chuck b. Rib  c. Loin   d. Round   e. Shank.

You can do fill in the blanks also or describe the method of fabricating a Beef Round and tell me the four roasts on it.

each question is worth 2 points which equals 100 points, example if the cutter got 48 correct, they would earn a 96.

 

The Practical is divided into: Machinery (put together a grinder in a professional manner) worth 4 points.  Hands on Fabrication is worth 12 points

Knife skills (4points each)

Sanitation (4 points each)

Yield & Time (4 points each)

Labeling (4 points each)

Machinery (4 points)

Total 20 points  (they are worth 5 points each) 20 x 5 = 100

example if a cutter recieved a total score of 18 points multiply by 5= 90

 

 

so you take the 96 and 90 add together then divide for a grade.   93 passing would be a 75.

There can be more such as professionalism, sanitation, use of knives, production

 

any other questions email me at ChefLazar5@aol.com

 

 

 



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I can say I had many "missed opportunities", mostly with female customers not co-workers.  But I also never got myself in trouble!
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jimhenry2000 wrote:
 
So what was said to her?


 The unfortunate thing about this case is the lady sort of made it ok. She set the precedent and this poor guy paid the price. Maybe she was having a bad day. Maybe she didn't like this one individual. Maybe it was payback for the manager who wrote her up unfairly (which I can understand and agree with under the right circumstances). Maybe she set up a situation for a big payday? (supposedly this wasn't her first lawsuit). It was a plan? I don't know how these two got along. That's important. Sometimes what's ok for almost everyone else isn't ok for him. I was around when she told at least one joke involving sex. I liked the joke. No one was offended.  Super fun to work with and have around. This lady was very flirtatious, at least with me, and it even made me question my judgement for not asking her "out for a drink" like Jimhenry suggested. "surely (just maybe) she might like me and want me" I thought. "no not me" I reassured myself. Have you ever regretted a "missed opportunity"? Well, that was one of mine. I'll never know.  I know she loved attention and I wasn't sure if she was just being herself, or was interested in me.

One day off she day off, she came in with tight thin super shear T-shirt/no bra. I don't know how often that happened. I appreciated it, but didn't say anything stupid. The manager in question was the type who was just one of the guys. Easy going, and will tell jokes and (when it's safe) will join in on conversations about how pretty the customer down the aisle is. He was cool with almost everyone. It's not what he said. It was what he did. The manager and employee were walking towards each other, or facing each other, and from several feet away, maybe 40, the manager stretched his arms out in front of him and made a squeezing motion with his hands. He didn't touch her, but he did make the motion. That's what got him in trouble. This wasn't on the day when she came in with that nice shirt. And even if it was, that still wouldn't have made a difference in what your allowed to do or say.


 



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Frozen Steer feet were even worse, in my opinion.
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Know that splitting frozen pig feet is 90% of lost fingers down south. Thumb or index, usually. Use guard or a large stomper for a handle, the frozen feet jump!
Know all the common safety mistakes, small with big consequences.


LOL @ If the blade tastes like blood you know it's sharp.


 



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Just ONE reason why I would not hire anyone without a high school diploma. (Yes I know there are exceptions, but I wouldn't mke them.)
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This might be part of what Coalcraker means on item 10. Super simple math, you'd think. But we have a new clerk that needs help figuring out what three quarters of a pound is when a customer asks for it, or eight ounces, or 4 ounces. I'd think it's common knowledge that you get from life experience, but this guy has to keep asking. The ounces, maybe that's excusable, but why doesn't he know that three quarters (of 100) means?


 



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I worked with a great cutter awhile back in the first shop I ran. I had to buy a scale that weighed in ounces because he couldn't figure it out. Thank you ChefLazar for the information I got 25 questions so far covering "list the primal" to "Give a recipe for x cut" 

P.S. They have to demo the recipe. 



-- Edited by Frog on Tuesday 1st of September 2015 10:56:11 PM

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Just me I guess, but I would  guesss but I'd have reservations about adjusting a test so that candidate will pass.  All sorts of HR issues.
Frog wrote:

I worked with a great cutter awhile back in the first shop I ran. I had to buy a scale that weighed in ounces because he couldn't figure it out. Thank you ChefLazar for the information I got 25 questions so far covering "list the primal" to "Give a recipe for x cut" 

P.S. They have to demo the recipe. 



-- Edited by Frog on Tuesday 1st of September 2015 10:56:11 PM


 



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