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I saw this notice next to the time clock at a Safeway store where I worked back in May, I think it was.



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This is a consider a " Informal verbal warning "  next is suppose to be a Written Warning



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apcowboy wrote:

This is a consider a " Informal verbal warning "  next is suppose to be a Written Warning


 To me, "verbal" means 

"expressed in spoken words. oral rather than written"

and if no one said it, it's not a verbal warning. It's a written warning that maybe I saw, maybe I didn't. 

BTW, the two days I worked there, I parked in the middle of the huge lot. No one cried about it. The back would be too near the smaller business who probably wouldn't like that either. 

You should see the parking lot in question. There's about 15 stores. How can any one of them claim to own the entire lot? There is no sign saying "Safeway Employee Parking". As for street parking, 99% of it is red zone. 

I know most stores have a policy saying you may not park in the spaces nearest the store. Or that you must park in the back of the lot. But this is the only time I've ever seen parking almost forbidden. 

Another thing wrong with the sign (a tiny technical mistake) is some people ride a bike, or walk to work. They shouldn't have a sign "requiring" you to park your car there. Maybe you want to leave it at home. Maybe it's inoperable. Do they want you to have it towed there? 



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Burgermeister now you have me reading English 101 lol

The first attestation of verbal meaning “composed of words” comes in either 1530 or 1589.* And the first attestation of verbal meaning “conveyed by speech” comes in 1617:

 
the relative usage of the two meanings of verbal, so I’m not going to try to say that one is more common than the other. But it is pretty clear that the “conveyed by speech” meaning is valid.
 
Does this acceptability mean that you should unquestioningly use it in this way? Not necessarily; there is a potentially significant ambiguity here, so it’s not the best choice in all situations. On occasion, it will matter whether verbal means “conveyed by speech” or “involving words”.
 
Verbal can refer either to anything delivered in words or something that is specifically spoken. This latter usage is sometimes condemned as modern sloppiness

 in legal contexts, it’s probably better to refer to oral contracts, warnings, etc. than verbal ones, just to avoid the ambiguity.
 
So HR would have your ass either way  lol
 


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dictionary.com gives this definition of "verbal"

expressed in spoken words; oral rather than written.

I would get so used to seeing notices at the time clock I would stop reading them. I would definitely get a write up from this store. I don't mind parking in the back as long as there are available parking spaces. I worked in some stores with designated employee parking areas that never had enough spaces for the employees.

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dictionary.com gives this definition of "verbal"

expressed in spoken words; oral rather than written.

I would get so used to seeing notices at the time clock I would stop reading them. I would definitely get a write up from this store. I don't mind parking in the back as long as there are available parking spaces. I worked in some stores with designated employee parking areas that never had enough spaces for the employees.


 Sometimes your car,  or the contents of your car isn't/arent safe in the back. I don't want to sound sexist, but this is common sense. If you get off work after dark, it might not be wise for some people to park in the back. I feel safe, but women might not feel safe parking so far back. I think some rape or mugging prevention literature or classes may advise against parking far from the front of a store at night. 

I wonder if a store has ever been successfully sued over this by someone who was attacked? 



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Burgermeister you have a good point there!  I know I have worked some store in Atlanta where the women getting off after 5:30 were walked to their car by two stock boys, after 7:30 it would be a Assistant Manager and a stock boy

A lot of meat cutters working those stores carry guns with them 



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Thats a very good point. I worked the night shift in a rough areas several years ago. I do remember being nervous walking to my car at midnight. These concerns should be raised. When I park anywhere I like to be able to see my car from the window of the establishment. During the day time when the store is at its busiest parking in the back makes sense if there are spaces to park in. Maybe a security guard who focuses on that area should be mandatory.


A lot of the cutters I worked with were armed too. Especially when I worked in Flint, Michigan.

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Hey BugerM. I heard this funny joke and I think it applies to your question. LOL> My boss just called me into his office.

He said, "You've already had a verbal warning about your lateness and now I'm giving you a written warning. If you're late again I promise that there will be no more warnings!"

I'm going to purposely be late everyday next week, just to see if he keeps to his promise.



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Coalcracker wrote:

Hey BugerM. I heard this funny joke and I think it applies to your question. LOL> My boss just called me into his office.

He said, "You've already had a verbal warning about your lateness and now I'm giving you a written warning. If you're late again I promise that there will be no more warnings!"

I'm going to purposely be late everyday next week, just to see if he keeps to his promise.


 Ha! That's a good one. Made me laugh at the end of my workday (moonlighting on what should have been my day off again)



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Horrible message, written or verbal, management by fear, I'd be looking for work elsewhere, maybe that's why they call me the "traveling butcher."

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it could only be a verbal warning if you read it out loud to yourself...LOL



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Toby I like your sense of humor lol

 

newbernbears how far would you travel for a good job??



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   At my company it is policy to give a verbal warning,then a written verbal warning,then a disciplinary report, then another disciplinary report with suspension, then another for termination, which protects the company from paying unemployment benefits to the said disciplined person.They are  common at my company,also Georgia is anb at will employment state with no union so technically your boss can just walk up and say we don't need you any more and you cant do squat about it!



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Daily, one hour radius of New Bern, NC.

Thanks man for asking!

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I agree newbernbers a terrible message if a child can use an iphone there is no need for that terrible font and underlining as for 2 explanation marks isnt one enough and thats management typing makes my typing seem ok

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I bet this Gerry Schwinges' car gets egged alot.

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the parking thing made me think i dont drive but the store had a policy of employees parking on sidestreets or behind the store.

anyhow the bus stop was behind it too and at the crossing the signal said walk and my eyes saw the lady who decided to turn the corner with dinner balanced on the steering wheel eating it with a fork my legs thought different. crazy houston drivers.

also sat at the bus stop and one driver cut one up at speed the other breaked and spun about 2 ft from my face luckily there were no other cars to crashed into the guy who braked 90 degrees. i felt myself move in slow motion out of the busstop seat

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fdarn wrote:

I bet this Gerry Schwinges' car gets egged alot.


 I remember a case where the MANAGER had to park blocks from the store.  The reason being he was such a dick that his brand new Caddie had most of the paint scraped off with wallpaper scrapers, and the vinyl top "surgically removed".



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Burgermeister wrote:

I saw this notice next to the time clock at a Safeway store where I worked back in May, I think it was.


 In our company a verbal warning was one that was still documented in the employee's file, but did not require the employee to read and sign it.  A written warning was just that. It was a statement put in writing, read to the employee in a disciplinary meeting then handed to the employee who was told to read it and sign it.  Of course we always refused to sign it.  Our union's policy was that the only thing we had to sign was our paycheck. I never had a disciplinary meeting but there were other cases where we were given new policy statements that we were told to sign off on and we would refuse to sign those.  I remember one time when the company did actually get over on me.  It was some new policy that I had to watch a video about and I refused to sign.  A few weeks later I got a notice from the Post Office that I had a package by Registered Mail. I went to the P.O. and though I was not expecting anything, like a dummy I signed for it to get my mail. BAM!  It was that video tape!  There were some things we had to sign for, i.e. deliveries but we were instructed to make our signatures illegible.  Mine were, and appeared different every time I signed.

Every company I ever worked for had a parking policy requiring us to park as far away from the store as possible.  Personally I never had a problem with that, but I did note the difference in that when I went to college, the best parking spaces were reserved for Professors (employees) and the students (customers) were required to park in the far away spaces. The same with hospitals where the best spaces are reserved for doctors and not the patients.  And yes I was always armed as were many of my crew.

The last chain I worked for (Pathmark) also had the policy that if you wished you could request another employee escort you to your car. I never felt I needed that but since my wife works there now I wish she would insist on that.  The reality is that help has been cut back so much that there really is no one available to do that.  So she parks as close to the store as possible and again because the help is so light there really is no one who has the time to check on where employees park. The previous store she worked in also had a large underground parking garage for customers only and she would always park there and there was no one who ever caught her or had the time to even check..



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This is what I have to say about a sign like that; If you want your employees to take good care of your customers, start by taking good care of your employees. Treating them respectfully and fairly.

I can't tell you how many times I have helped customers as I walked from my car to the front door of stores and back to my car at quitting time for 15 years. We were always allowed to park in the store parking lot but not up close to the door. We had to park maybe 6 or 7 rows back. I have walked buggies back into the store, I have helped customers with their groceries, I  have given directions. One time I noticed a dog locked in a car with the windows up, went inside and we got on the intercom to fetch the stupid customer. I bet many of you reading this can also remember helping people in the parking lot of your store.

 Whom ever made that sign has never had any interaction with employees at the store level.

 

 



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