Club memberJeremiah McMillin had a cut resistant glove on. The whole tip of his 10in knife went right through that sucker. He has got a good sized pocket in the palm of his left hand. Jeremiah is also a member of our Face book group, Butchers & Meat Cutters
that's why if you have to use a glove get a mesh glove. But I agree gloves create bad habits. I lost a chunk on my finger when I forgot to put my mesh glove back on one day.
I don't like gloves, People depend upon them so much. At Publix they made us wear them, people get dependent u Lazpon them. Even deli people wear them. People need more training and act responsible. Remember your first cut is your best .
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Alan Lazar
I make all of my employees wear them, and as usual I am a bad leader because I don't. When My employees ask me why I don't have to, I explain to them, first off I learned really fast to cut the meat and not myself and secondly I am not going to call work mans comp if I do happen to cut myself, put a little cyan pepper on it and back to work!
I make all of my employees wear them, and as usual I am a bad leader because I don't. When My employees ask me why I don't have to, I explain to them, first off I learned really fast to cut the meat and not myself and secondly I am not going to call work mans comp if I do happen to cut myself, put a little cyan pepper on it and back to work!
Nothing personal toward you moviestar. I don't know you, but:
One thing I've always hated is hypocrisy from managers. For me, it's one of the worst things about the job. A$$hole managers really hate it when you point out their hypocrisy. That's caused me a lot of time on the $hitlist.
I don't wear a glove in my regular 40 hr per week job. However, I do a little moonlighting. I had at least 35 extra days work in maybe 15 different stores in 2014 outside of my company. Safeway & Lucky mostly. At 100% of those stores, you MUST wear a glove. I always have one in my toolbox and I always use it when I'm at a store that demands it. For one thing, if I don't wear a glove, they won't allow me to come back. If I get caught not wearing a glove THEY (the manager and crew) will get in trouble. It doesn't matter that I'm not a regular employee. I wouldn't want to be the cause of that.
It's important to remember there is a difference between cut-resistant and cut-proof. Metal mesh gloves are mean to be cut-proof, although it's still possible to poke a sharp point of a blade though the metal circles. Cut-gloves made of Dyneema, Kevlar, and other cut-resistant materials are only meant to be cut-resistant. Be safe out there and protect those valuable hands!
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I use a 3 finger mesh glove that I've had since 1981
What brand is that? The ones I get imported from China tend to fall apart after 5 years.
I don't think the brand name is written anywhere on it. It was issued to me by Denver Meat Company (in San Jose Ca.) when I worked there. It was a wholesale company. The beef was from Colorado and that's why San Jose had a "Denver" meat company. I haven't used it a lot. It may have fallen apart if I used it 40 hours per week for 5 years. After the 1981 job, no one ever made me use it at my 1982-2003 job or at my current 2003-2015 job. I used it every day at Denver Meat Co and maybe 200 days since then. I expect it to last the rest of my career. 4-10 years. A few links have broken away from the wrist band, but it's still very good. I'll check for a name tomorrow. I bet it once had a tag that's fallen off. It may have been previously used when they gave it to me. I was supposed to turn it in when I left. I didn't comply
My pet peeve is when folks get the definition of hypocrisy. Often words are misused as the result of nominalism which has infected the western world. Socialism is the most prominent sower of nominalism.
Hypocrisy is having knowledge of objective truth and yet speaking otherwise, so as, to misinform people.
A manager not wearing his glove whilst telling his employees to wear them is merely 'poor example'.
Hypocrisy would be a manager telling his employees that cut-gloves are totally cut and puncture resistant when in reality they are not completely bulletproof; failing to live up to set expectations.
Hypocrisy is a form of irony.
Classically, we could say all men ontologically either become hypocrites or confessors, when complete truth literally stares them in the face upon their death. Hypocrites always know what they are rejecting and confessors have full knowledge of they accept. The assent to truth, is properly called joy.
Hypocrisy = the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform.
That means doing the opposite of what you preach. I am going to need a dictionary to understand everything you just said JimmyMac but I do believe instructing your employees to do one thing while you do the opposite is hypocrisy. However I do agree hypocrites will be the ones to set bad examples as you said this situation was.
"a manager telling his employees that cut-gloves are totally cut and puncture resistant when in reality they are not completely bulletproof; failing to live up to set expectations. " That would be an example of ignorance if the manager really believes that. If he doesn't really believe that it would be an example of lying or making false misleading statements.
-- Edited by fdarn on Thursday 1st of January 2015 09:46:42 PM
I use a 3 finger mesh glove that I've had since 1981
What brand is that? The ones I get imported from China tend to fall apart after 5 years.
I don't think the brand name is written anywhere on it. It was issued to me by Denver Meat Company (in San Jose Ca.) when I worked there. It was a wholesale company. The beef was from Colorado and that's why San Jose had a "Denver" meat company. I haven't used it a lot. It may have fallen apart if I used it 40 hours per week for 5 years. After the 1981 job, no one ever made me use it at my 1982-2003 job or at my current 2003-2015 job. I used it every day at Denver Meat Co and maybe 200 days since then. I expect it to last the rest of my career. 4-10 years. A few links have broken away from the wrist band, but it's still very good. I'll check for a name tomorrow. I bet it once had a tag that's fallen off. It may have been previously used when they gave it to me. I was supposed to turn it in when I left. I didn't comply
It's a Whiting & Davis Co. Glove. It says it in tiny writing on the clasp. I had never noticed.
It's a Whiting & Davis Co. Glove. It says it in tiny writing on the clasp. I had never noticed.
Thank you. It still looks new in that picture. I have a red band on mine and its faded from all the washing Yours is 34 years old. That was a good investment. You know the 5 finger ones go for up to $75.00 on ebay.
Hypocrisy is having knowledge of objective truth and yet speaking otherwise, so as, to misinform people.
A manager not wearing his glove whilst telling his employees to wear them is merely 'poor example'.
Hypocrisy would be a manager telling his employees that cut-gloves are totally cut and puncture resistant when in reality they are not completely bulletproof; failing to live up to set expectations.
Hypocrisy is a form of irony. .........
hypocrisy:
a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principals, etc., that one does not really possess.
I don't care what word you want me to use. A manager who breaks his/her own rules or enforces the company rules against all those except him/herself is a person who is not worthy of respect.
It's a Whiting & Davis Co. Glove. It says it in tiny writing on the clasp. I had never noticed.
Thank you. It still looks new in that picture. I have a red band on mine and its faded from all the washing Yours is 34 years old. That was a good investment. You know the 5 finger ones go for up to $75.00 on ebay.
-- Edited by fdarn on Thursday 1st of January 2015 11:05:16 PM
My glove is not as clean as it appears in the picture. The part of the band that's unseen actually has a lot of dried meat on it. I hardly ever wash it. It stays mostly clean, because when I use it, I wear 3 gloves on my left hand. First I have a cloth glove. On top of that, is the 3 finger steel mesh glove. On the outside I frequently change an extra large latex glove. The inner cloth glove is warm on my hand. The cold steel just doesn't feel comfortable. The outer latex glove keeps the slack from getting in the way of what I'm cutting. Also, it keeps the steel mesh clean. However, the band does get dirty and I rarely wash it.
I have a cut resistant glove I used it once in the year I have been cutting I only use latex gloves when I work the service counter I was taught how to cut without one and I personally prefer not using one i'm not saying I haven't cut myself but after the first few cuts I became aware of where my hands were. if they enforce they glove policy id comply because I love what I do and wouldn't want to jeopardize my job. as far as a manager /leader not using a glove and makes the crew wear one I feel like fdarn its hypocritical, its a do as I say and not a do as I do situation, I understand the point that you are experienced but a leader leads his /her team by example, and a manager manages. its something I learned in the restaurant industry.
Something to remember when using kevlar type gloves is that when they got old they sometimes develop cracked/broken strands of fabric in the palm due to repetative opening and closing of the hand, like bending a wire back and forth until it breaks. Check them regularly and replace when needed.
