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Championship bagger Stephanie Teteak from Larry’s Piggly Wiggle in Kaukauna, Wis. has been vying for the national title of Best Bagger for eight years at the NGA Show in Las Vegas. This year, she succeeded, winning $10,000, the “Golden Grocery Bag” trophy and the Pan-Oston “Best Bagger Golden Lane,” a custom checkout stand that will be placed in her store.

“It matters. You know, a  lot of people don’t take it seriously, but it’s really the most important job in the store,” Teteak said. “The impression you give the customer there is what you’re going to go home with.

They don't even want to talk about a national title for a Meat Cutter



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APPARENTLY the National Grocers Association is ashame of their meat cutters or don't read Supermart News

Underscoring service in the supermarket meat department pays off. Meat cutters, newly nudged into the limelight — and often newly trained to engage customers — Offer a benefit that keeps meat sales growing even in the face of rising prices, retailers said.They see the service meat department as an information center, and the ultimate place to seal customer loyalty. Some also said it's a great place to sell customers up, and promote across departments.

supermarketnews.com/meat/spotlight-service

 

Hopefully the National Grocers Association will soon reconize the value of their meat cutters and give them a chance at $10,000.00



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KevinJRS wrote:

I can agree that a bagger is important to the attitude and perception of a store. However, it is the meat shop and cutters that are the backbone.


I think almost everyone (except some supervisors) plays an important and equal part. No person or department is the most important except to maybe certain customers who come in just for the produce or just the meat. But that would be a one single store situation. I think I hear it most with produce. Customers choose a store because of produce. It will make or break the store. I think produce quality is more important than meat. That is except for rotten spoiled meat that thankfully we don't see much of anymore. What I mean is average meat is OK, but average produce might not be OK. I think maybe the cleaning crew are the most important. But maybe the electric company is the most important part of the store. It's like the wheels/gears in a clock. You take one out, none of them will work.

 

I'm almost positive some person at the top told that bagger that they are the most important. They say stuff like that to motivate people. I opened a brand new store in 1995. We had a meeting before the grand opening. Everyone was there. We were all told that we were the best in the company and that we were "hand picked" for that store. The store lasted 6 months



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I can agree that a bagger is important to the attitude and perception of a store. However, it is the meat shop and cutters that are the backbone.

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Our store does'nt even have baggers-to save that customer money on goods!



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Perception is reality, "bagging" is easily graded/measured,

I use to ask my meat supervisors, why there wasn't meatcutting competitions within the company-he said, "because we work with sharp knives, and if someone got hurt, then someone could be sue'd"

Texas roadhouse has a competition, but they also have the measures in place., it's there own measures, but nonetheless measures


I think if we wanted some sort of meatcutting competition, it Has to be more on merchandising, and speed, or combination of both
say there was five cutting stations, and a primal on each station,
the grading would (should ) cover
1. competency of the cutting (no wedges)
2. how many different cuts from the primal within alotted time
3 cutting yield test result
4. Packaging/presentation of finished product


it's one thing cutting in the comfort of your own place everyday, quite another to cut in front of a video camera or in front of a few hundred people.

with technology today, we could actually have a friendly competition right here
for example, if we could video how to cut and merchandise primals - upload them to youtube, and share the link on here- we then could vote for who we all like best

we'd all learn a few things in the process


this would be good to have as a resource on here, like a member library of cutting videos


just a thought....................


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Hey mainemeatman,  I like this ideal !!

with technology today, we could actually have a friendly competition right here
for example, if we could video how to cut and merchandise primals - upload them to youtube, and share the link on here- we then could vote for who we all like best

we'd all learn a few things in the process


this would be good to have as a resource on here, like a member library of cutting videos



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I think most of you here know that i'm quite vocal when it comes to how meat cutters get the short of of the stick and some times I say things maybe I shouldn't lol.

I had posted this on NGA face book page in reply to the first post above.

APPARENTLY the National Grocers Association is ashamed of their meat cutters or don't read Super mart News

Underscoring service in the supermarket meat department pays off. Meat cutters, newly nudged into the limelight — and often newly trained to engage customers — Offer a benefit that keeps meat sales growing even in the face of rising prices, retailers said. They see the service meat department as an information center, and the ultimate place to seal customer loyalty. Some also said it's a great place to sell customers up, and promote across departments.

supermarketnews.com/meat/spotlight-service

 Hopefully the National Grocers Association will soon recognize the value of their meat cutters and give them a chance at $10,000.00

 I got a reply to it yesterday morning from a lady there telling me that that she wanted to talk to me or e-mail me. I send her a e-mail explaining why I made the statement and that I thought NGA should give their meat cutters a shot at it. I told her I was open to a phone call if she wanted to talk. I didn't hear anything from her. So this afternoon I wrote her a long e-mail about the subject. I got a reply that she had been very busy and was sorry she hadn't got back to me. wanted to set a time for Monday or Tuesday to talk about a meat cutting competition, she likes the ideal, excited about it and wants to bring in one of the Meat Association on it and THANK goodness it's not beef check off  lol  So I'll get back as soon as I talk with her and give a update on what might take place.



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The last post I made here, I was waiting to get a phone call from this lady Christine and discuss this. I never heard from her and yesterday they posted that Baggers contest and it fired me up. I comment on it and ask some of our face book members to comment also.

With in a few hours I got a reply from a Hayley McConnell asking me to send a e-mail to her, I reply to her I would send my first letter that never got answered, which I did send, SO this is the reply I got back from her. SO now I guess I'll wait and see if they blow me off again lol

Good Morning Leon, 

Christine and I would like to further discuss a competition for meat cutters with you.

Can you send us a few dates/times that work best for you next week and the following?

 

Thanks,

Hayley

Hayley McConnell

Director, Communications

National Grocers Association (NGA)

Office: 703.516.8808

Cell: 215.932.5097



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They should have a competition, those things drew big crowds for whole Foods and a few more I've seen on youtube. the news channels carry them as news spots free. you can't beat that advertising cost.



 



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Cowboy I work for a company that deals with them, they think that bagger program is the most wonderful thing they ever done, it's a real demoralizer for us cutters to see them disrespect us the way they do. most of the customers i've talk to thinks it's a big joke, I know all of us in the store does and even some of the baggers.



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Their BS line with this is, "This competition continues to shine a light on the incredible dedication and work ethic of grocery employees, particularly baggers, from all across the country" 

MOST of the time in my store when you need a bagger they hid in the back room. we  had two get in this competition, never go far but manager had to fire one because he thought he didn't have to do anything because he was special because of the competition.

As far as them doing anything for our meat cutters that is a joke.



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I doubt if they would do anything for their cutters, they don't care about meat cutters anymore because they think we not skill labor. That is why I got away from the chains and took a job in a butcher shop.
I agree with you Master_Meat_Man there a lot of free advertising that goes with those competitions, that is also the way the better chains keep a interest for the trade and can get more young people to learn it. they don't have the meat cutter shortage other chains have or have to hire the dopers, drunks and sorry ones.


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This would be a good shot for the Independents to show up the chains and support their meat cutters. An your right about the free advertising. Their web site says, " Independent grocers will find the solutions to tackle their most challenging business issues while improving productivity in all key areas of operations " This would be a good way to handle their problem of finding good meat cutters as it would spark interest in the trade, give them better qualified people to train and get off a lot of the drunks, druggies and rejects from the chains. But on the other hand they don't have to pay the drunks, druggies and rejects from the chains a good wage. If I'm not mistaken I think they have about 5000 stores, at a small number that could be around 10,000 meat cutters at two to a store, I've been in some of their stores that had 3 and 4 cutters, from the story cowboy had on the message board the usa is around 5000 cutters short, it would make sense for them to promote a meat cutter contest so they could train their own instead of taking the drunks, druggies and rejects.

 They do drew a crowd if you promote them, check out this crowd

http://youtu.be/8nRAwRcCld4



 



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maybe they need to take a few lessons in leadership and appreciation for their employees


http://www.octanner.com/what-we-do/leadership-coaching



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  I've read how Good Independent markets and old time butcher shops are making a comeback, consumers are tired of poor service, they are fed up with major chain store meat department crap. A local-full service butcher shop is usually where you see the greatest combination of meat cutting skills so to me it doesn't make sense to not promote their meat cutters.



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NGA must feel that the majority of real, productive work in a grocery store is not done by meat cutters but by baggers. To me their attitude is insulting to our trade. My question to them is, how hard is it to find a qualify meat cutter, to cut their meat, be able to tell customers how to cook it, make their customers happy and bring them back into the store compared to how hard is it to find a bagger which requires no skill. As the old saying, not just anyone can cut meat but you can train a monkey to run the front end and as we all know most front ends are loaded with monkeys. Wake up NGA, to get your promotional dollars worth, " GO MEAT "


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A few months ago, I was at a "bagging" competition it was at the mgm grand at foxwoods......now they had a preview the night before in the theatre, in front of 100's of people,,,,we were in the chairs with drinks..... these bagging "contestents" werent quite nervous with everyone staring at them...

but I was also thinking how could this be a meatcutting competition??

the bagger "guidelines" were clear, easy to measure

meatcutter competitions,,,I would love to see- since most of us are on production measures/schedules, we'd want to to measure productivity-.....but then,,,,someone cuts themself, and bleeds, needs stitches, the organizers go nuts over this,,

how would you measure a meatcutter competition??

would you, randomly have three primals per meatcutter and have a certain amount of time to process all three- then place the weights/retails in a computer program cutting yield test?? giving consistent cost/retails, and or sale items

then grade on profit merchandising of fall out cuts?? presentation, eye appeal??


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All of the above.


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As you know I posted this e-mail on Sept 27th,

 

Good Morning Leon, 

Christine and I would like to further discuss a competition for meat cutters with you.

Can you send us a few dates/times that work best for you next week and the following?

 

Thanks,

Hayley

Hayley McConnell

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Office: 703.516.8808

Cell: 215.932.5097

 
My response was,
 
 Hi Hayley,
Just call anytime 7 to 7 E.S.T. Monday to Monday
  706-271-0961  

 
I'm a retired Meat Cutter/Market Manager/ Meat Merchandiser of 51 years.  Owner of http://www.meatcuttersclub.com

 A advocate for Meat Cutters, Small Meat Processors, Butcher Shops and Meat Cutting Schools, take online College courses, You call I'll make time for you!



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Apparently in three weeks and two days they couldn't find the time to hold up their end of their e-mail, Or they more interested in promoting their bag boys/ girls than their meat cutters.
In our Club we have over 200 Independent store meat cutters, I feel for them that a bagger has more worth than they do to their company.



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I started as a bagger (well actually first I was a cart boy for a couple months before being "promoted".  I wish they had that contest back then for I think I would have won. I could cover 2-3 checkouts simultaneously and get them bagged before they paid up. 

Still, "the most important job in the store""???  If that were true why was most every other job in the store other than cart boy be considered a promotion?



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I wanna be a bagged if I can win 10,000 lol

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