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"Pink Slime"
by Louis K. Muench on Friday, March 9, 2012 at 5:58pm ·
Louis is one of our Face Book Club page members and a Muench of Louie's Finer Meats, home of A MASTER MEAT CRAFTER 
 

I've been seeing a lot of distorted information about "pink slime" recently. I was directly involved with a lot of research regarding this process and BPI when I was in grad school. While Louie's Finer Meats has never used (and never will use) this type of product, there is a place for this product and I feel obligated to defend the meat industry against falsehoods. The fact is that this is a good source of safe, nutritious protein. In a world where people are going to sleep hungry and even in a wealthy country like we have, people are getting pinched by increasing food prices, it is immoral and wasteful to NOT use this technology if it exists. Removing this product from the food supply will increase beef prices for all of us and will be wasteful. By separating fat from lean meat, they are also able to use the fat for other non-food byproducts such as biodiesel.

 Nearly all Americans have eaten this product since it was blended into ground beef blends for nearly all fast-food restaurants, school lunch programs, and more until recently when McDonald's and others stopped using it because of the controversy. I ate this product frequently during our research, and continued to eat at fast-food restaurants knowing that this was an ingredient. I know that BPI is a company that does more than most companies regarding food safety, technology, and innovations. It's a shame that good people will lose their jobs over this. I correctly predicted that one day the public would react negatively to this. I'm glad that I didn't take a job with BPI (they were aggressively trying to recruit people with good paying jobs). 

 Here's two industry articles about the controversy:

 Popular and social media in renewed ire over industry use of recognized safe intervention  

By Michael Fielding on 3/8/2012 - Meatingplace

 The always attention-grabbing “your kids are in danger” cry has thrust back into the national conversation about the use of lean, finely textured beef (LFTB) – colloquially known as “pink slime.”

McDonald’s and Burger King have stopped buying from Dakota Dunes, S.D.-based Beef Products Inc. (BPI) over relentless pressure by the public and the media to not use one of its products that is added to ground beef. Now the USDA’s Agricultural Marketing Service (AMS) is the latest target of bloggers and activists, one of whom has created an online petition at for-profit website change.org.

Even ABC aired a report Wednesday, linking former Undersecretary of Agriculture JoAnn Smith to BPI’s board of directors.

The latest dust-up began Monday, when the online journal The Daily reported that the Agricultural Marketing Service plans to purchase 7 million pounds of product from BPI “in the coming months.”

Carl Custer, one of the two former USDA microbiologists quoted in The Daily, alleged that the product isn’t muscle but rather connective tissue. But connective tissue isn't red. Any redness (or pink, in this case) is associated with myoglobin — meaning it's of muscle origin.

“We actually have equipment in place specifically designed to remove any sinew, cartilage, or connective tissue that may come in with raw materials, just like the companies that take trim and produce ground beef,” Rich Jochum, BPI’s corporate administrator told Meatingplace. “Our finished product is typically 94 percent lean.”

The latest criticism comes as new USDA standards have quadrupled the amount of testing required for both boneless beef and finished product. New rules for supplying commodity ground beef to federal nutrition programs – 78 percent of which goes to the National School Lunch Program – through the USDA’s Agricultural Marketing Service went into effect July 2010.

LFTB is permissible in the school lunch program, although the product must have at least one scientifically validated intervention that proves a 3-log pathogen reduction, as LFTB could come from external carcass trim and sometimes has a higher microbial load potential.

But for all the yuck factor, the industry is concerned that the public pressure may eliminate a cost-effective, safe protein source that makes use of trim that is otherwise lost are warranted.

“We use ammonium hydroxide, which we believe is the most effective food safety intervention available based upon our research,” Jochum said.

The choke-hold could cripple Beef Products Inc., which uses a proprietary process that relies on ammonium hydroxide gas to raise the naturally occurring levels of ammonium hydroxide in the beef. That in turn increases the meat’s pH to eliminate pathogens. The company has already had to reduce its hours of operation.  

Ammonium hydroxide isn’t the only intervention used in producing LFTB. Cargill uses citric acid, just one of several alternatives to treat what it calls finely textured beef (FTB) to reduce the pathogen load.

These lean products are included in approximately 70 percent of all ground beef products.

"Given the increasing demand for animal protein products by people around the world hungry for them, together with a decreasing global supply, not using this lean beef for human consumption would be wrong for a variety of reasons," Cargill spokesman Mike Martin told Meatingplace.

“If FTB were not used in ground beef, more muscle meat would be used, further straining an already limited supply,” Martin said, estimating that 1.5 million more head of cattle would need to be harvested annually to provide enough beef to equate to the volume of FTB produced in the U.S.

To make the product, meat companies use USDA-inspected beef trimmings that contain both fat and lean and are nearly impossible to separate using a knife. The trimmings are then simmered at low heat to separate the fat from the muscle. Food-grade ammonium hydroxide – also commonly used as a direct food additive in baked goods, cheeses and chocolates – is just one process.

The product is later blended into foods like ground beef. “Producing LFTB ensures that lean, nutritious, safe beef is not wasted in a world where red meat protein supplies are decreasing while global demand is increasing as population and income increases,” said American Meat Institute President J. Patrick Boyle.

 Meat industry counters boneless lean beef critics

MeatPoultry.com, March 8, 2012 by Meat&Poultry Staff

 WASHINGTON, and DAKOTA DUNES, SD – Meat industry stakeholders are speaking out against negative reports surrounding the use of boneless lean beef trimmings (BLBT) in the food supply.

 Beef Products Inc. has come under fire for a process it developed that uses the compound ammonium hydroxide to rid the trimmings of foodborne pathogens such as E. coli. McDonald's, Burger King and Taco Bell reportedly stopped using lean beef trimmings treated with ammonium hydroxide.

 But the Food and Drug Administration designated ammonium hydroxide as "generally recognized as safe" for use in food by the Food and Drug Administration in 1974. In addition to use in beef trimmings, ammonium hydroxide has been used as a leavening agent in baked foods. In 2001, the US Department of Agriculture's Food Safety and Inspection Service approved the use of ammonium hydroxide as a food safety tool.

 "At Beef Products, Inc., we produce lean beef from trim. Trim is the meat and fat that is trimmed away when beef is cut into steaks and roasts. This lean beef is used in hamburger, sausage, ground beef, and as a valuable ingredient in many other foods," the company said in a statement.

 "We use a natural compound – called ammonium hydroxide, which is widely used in the processing of numerous foods, such as baked goods, cheeses, gelatins, chocolate, caramels, and puddings – to slightly increase the pH level in beef and improve its safety," the statement continued.

 The American Meat Institute weighed in on the subject, saying recent media reports had created an inaccurate impression of boneless lean beef trimmings by calling it "pink slime".

 "The fact is, BLBT is beef," said J. Patrick Boyle, president of AMI. "The beef trimmings that are used to make BLBT are absolutely edible.

 "In fact, no process can somehow make an inedible meat edible; it's impossible," he added. "In reality, the BLBT production process simply removes fat and makes the remaining beef more lean and suited to a variety of beef products that satisfy consumers’ desire for leaner foods."

Boyle went on to say that that boneless lean beef trimmings are a sustainable product because the process makes use of lean meat that would otherwise be thrown away.

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thanks for this-good timing

remember ALAR on apples, how that was killing us and our kids in the late 80's?
60 minutes did an expose' and it killed half the apple industry- and it was baseless

As I walked out of a store yesterday a cashier asked me- "I'll never eat burger again, if I find out we have pink slime in it"
I said you don't- and I also said, that cigarette you are smoking has 100's more slime and chemicals in it than so called pink slime

I believe this amonia is more in tube burger and not in bench trimmings

so you can advertise your bench trimmings as slime-less





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For me, its not a matter of safety but taste. The stuff is nasty. I remember the days when we were on a tube grind program--opening up those tubes and often they just reeked. So happy we grind nothing but fresh primals now--even though it's more work. It's another nice definition between big box stores and your local grocery/butcher shop.

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I think this may be a advertising point for a lot of the meat industry now, I already see a lot of the butcher shops & a few chains using it in their ads, I'm sure the organic group will run with it too. I remember many years ago whe...n they first came out with the air & water guns to take the meat off the bones that was left because boners didn't get it all, it's been around for years. it will be interesting to see what stats of people dying from this or getting sick off it the groups out to end this will come up with lol



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No slime around these parts... except maybe inside the band-saw! I keep my bench trim around 81/19.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Maybe I am spoiled because if I want a hamburger for lunch I'll toss some a fistful of trim, for me and the other guys, into the old 7.5 HP mixer-grinder. That is, of course, if a few of us aren't turning the weak-stomached fellas green by slicing up pig-livers or whatever other offal we got laying around to dress sandwiches with.

I highly recommend the lamb sweetbreads floured and fried in butter.


The talk about ammonium-hydroxide is a little humorous really! Makes me think about sheep urine, a smell you can't get off your boots. 



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I'm sorry but I have to disagree. In the 28 years that I was a journeyman butcher I never put any chemicals in any ground beef nor did any of my co-workers. This is pure and simple corparate greed. And I for one, see no benefit from eating anything that has been treated with ammonia. I will continue to use my local butcher shop to purchase my meat supply.



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thought i would add a little to this thread as it's going to be a bitch to over come the bull **** out there about it.

Ammonium Hydroxide

As a part of our commitment to provide the safest lean beef possible, our research drove us to create the pH enhancement process, which relies upon slightly increasing the level of ammonium hydroxide already present in beef in order to elevate its pH. Ammonium hydroxide is naturally found in beef, other proteins, and virtually all foods. It is widely used in the processing of numerous foods, such as baked goods, cheeses, gelatins, chocolate, caramels, and puddings. One result of this food safety system is the dramatic reduction in the number of potential pathogens that may be present in foods, such as E.coli O157:H7.

Ammonia/ammonium hydroxide is one of a number of processing aids used with meat and poultry in order to ensure the safety of these foods before they are delivered to consumers. The pH enhancement process is an important component of our overall food safety effort. By adding a tiny amount of ammonia (gas) to the beef, we raise the pH in the beef to help kill any harmful bacteria that could possibly be present.

Maybe the graphic below helps to put it into a little better perspective. Ammonia based compounds are naturally occurring and can be found in every component of a bacon cheeseburger (bun, bacon, cheese, condiments, and beef). Baked goods, including breads will have ranges from 400 to 32,000 ppm (for the sake of illustration, we'll use the low end of the range). Bacon has approximately 48,000 ppm nitrogen (nitrates), with 160 ppm in the form of ammonia. Condiments, relishes, and cheeses have levels up to 8,000 ppm (for the sake of illustration, we'll use 400 ppm for the condiments and 1,000 ppm for American cheese). Between the naturally occurring levels and small amounts used in our food safety system, beef may have about 200 ppm. So, for the illustration, we've taken these amounts and multiplied by the weight of the typical bacon double cheeseburger to show the full picture.

Bacon Cheesburger
  • Bun - 2 oz = 50 mg (440 ppm)
  • Bacon - 1 oz = 16 mg (160 ppm)
  • Condiments – 2 oz = 50 mg (400 ppm)
  • Cheese – 1.5 oz = 76 mg (813 ppm)
  • Beef – 3.2 oz = 40 mg (200 ppm)

This is really nothing new. In fact, the presence or use of ammonia in foods has been studied for years. For example, the table below contains information developed in 1973 as part of a study printed in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

Food

NH3 (ppm)

Food

NH3 (ppm)

Food

NH3 (ppm)

American Cheese

813

French Dressing

134

Orange Juice

35

Apples

11

Grapefruit

166

Peaches

24

Bacon

161

Grapes

87

Peanut Butter

489

Beer

1

Grape Wine

18

Pears

30

Beer Cheese

917

Gelatin

342

Pecans

71

Bread

30

Green Peas

60

Pickle Relish

87

Brewer's yeast

217

Ground Beef

101

Potato Chips

240

Broccoli

62

Half milk/half cream

116

Radishes

44

Brussels sprouts

110

Ham

157

Raisins

95

Buttermilk

158

Hoap Cheese

616

Rice

1

Cabbage

17

Hot Dog

64

Salami

1112

Carrots

14

Idaho Potato

97

Spanish Olives

93

Catsup

352

Lemon juice

23

Spinach

10

Cauliflower

43

Lettuce

8

Squash

86

Cheddar Cheese

1104

Lima Beans

28

String Beans

7

Chicken

171

Margarine

211

Sweet Potatoes

18

Corn

14

Mayonnaise

411

Tilsit Cheese

552

Cucumbers

47

Milk

20

Tomatoes

37

Domestic Blue Cheese

1376

Mushrooms

66

Turnip Greens

29

Egg White

4

Mustard

35

  

Egg Yolk

41

Onions

269

 

 



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cutter- thank you for this!!
excellent information, as usual, this is blown wayyyyyyyyyyyyy out of proportion to fit agendas .



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From Linked In

I believe this to be a non-issue hyped by certain groups that have a "hidden" agenda. People who I trust (Marsden etal.), have weighed in on the safety of the product. The people who are unduly concerned about this share an anti-meat agenda. With so many world citizens going hungry we cannot afford to throw wholesome food away-it is a sustainability issue.
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this is going to be a problem for awhile to come, guess the vegan's will have a field day with it



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I've had numerous customer questions/comments regarding "pink slime". I certainly won't work with it directly in my shops, but then I do agree that to simply stop using LFTB would be a complete waste. It definitely provides a safe protein base. I'm sure it's already used to help foreign aid projects and rightfully so. The mass public literally think the meat industry is pouring ammonia out of a bucket into meat products. I blame poor media research and the distribution of misinformation for this.

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