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Today, for the thousath time i was asked about Kobe beef and if they really massage them and give them beer. I thought my response might be of interest to those here, sorry it's written for an audience in Japan so I can clarify if you don't know where Kyushu is, etc. Also, I'm looking for someone that can help with plant design.

Kobe Beef is just beef from the Wagyu breed of cattle that are finished in Hyogo-ken. There is no difference between Kobe-gyu, Matsuzaka-gyu, and the dozens of other regional brands. Many of them are born in Kyushu and shipped to the mainland to be fed out and slaughtered. 

There is a tremendous difference between the Wagyu breed of cattle and most other breeds developed for commercial beef production. Wagyu have been bred through single trait selection focusing solely on marbling (it turns out that there are a couple of genetic mutations unique to Wagyu cattle that relate to marbling and the production of oleic acid) . Most other breeds have focused on performance factors like feed conversion and growth. The result is that, in comparison to other breeds, Wagyu cattle produce beef that is very highly marbled with fat that melts at a lower temperature, and tastes really freaking good. The downside is that they take forever to grow, an Angus will typically reach market weight at 18-24 months, a Wagyu takes 30 or more. 

There is very little difference in the feed rations of Wagyu versus other breeds, Japan has to import most of it's feed anyway. And while a few farmers probably get a laugh popping open a beer and giving their heifer a rub-down when the TV crews come by, that's pretty much the only time it's ever done (not counting the occasional lonely farm-hand with way too much time on his hands). There is no machine that massages them Marquis de Sade-style and you'd be hard pressed to get a 1200 pound steer near one twice if there were. 

Even without the beer and massage teasers, Wagyu beef still has a lot going for it. It is tenderest, richest, beef anywhere. It's also higher in Omega-3 than any other beef, but only if it's properly fed-out. The Tesco F1 program won't produce anything exceptional. Also in Japan, every carcass is tested for BSE, all high risk materials are removed, and they have the best tractability program on the planet. Unfortunately, the meat business over here is full of liars and thieves (probably including me) so you never really know what you are getting. 

Full discolsure: I don't currently sell any domestic Wagyu, although I do have some Australian in stock. Hoping to import some young F1 cattle from the family ranch soon.



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hay 2 cosoas que creo que deben saber , no es igual kobe beef que kobe style
el wagyu que se cria fuera de japon no es de raza pura , y la alimentacion nunca sera tampoko la misma puesto que esta prohibido por ley exportar animales vivos
todo el kobe que sea criado y alimentado en cualquier otro pais no es 100% kobe beef puesto que son mezclas de razas , criada con afan de especular con el kobe y sacar mas dinero
de una res , aqui os muestro un vide sbre la alimentacion de el autentico kobe beef
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI4oiId47dM&feature=related espero explicarme correctamente!

 

There are 2 cosoas that i think should be know , is not the same kobe beef that kobe style
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wagyu that grows outside of Japan is not pure-bred , and the food will never tampoko it, since it is forbidden by law to export live animals
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the kobe to be bred and fed in any other country is not 100% kobe beef since they are mixtures of breeds, bred by the pursuit of speculating on the kobe and get more money
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res , here will show you the vide's power and
 
there is 2 cosoas that I believe that they must know, it is not an equal kobe beef that kobe style <br> the wagyu that grows up out of japon is not of pure race, and the feeding will never be tampoko the same since it is prohibited for law to export animal living <br> the whole kobe that is raised and fed in any other country is not a 100 % kobe beef since there are puerblood miscellanies, servant with emulation to speculate on the kobe and to extract more money <br> of an animal, here I show you a vide sbre the feeding of the authentic kobe beef <br> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI4oiId47dM&feature=related I hope to explain myself correctly! <br> <br>
 
There are 2 cosoas I think you should be aware, it is not like kobe beef than kobe style
the
wagyu that was grown outside Japan is pure-bred, and the food never sera tampoko the same post that is prohibited by law to export live animals
all
the kobe who is raised and fed in any other country is not 100% kobe since beef which are mixtures of breeds, raised with afan speculate with the kobe and get more money
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beef, here I show you a vide sbre food of the authentic kobe beef
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI4oiId47dM&feature= related
hope to explain myself correctly!



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Excellent video, but see my comment regarding farmers "having a laugh". In addition to beer and massage likely having no discernible affect on marbling, there are't enough people left in the countryside of Japan to do do anything like this.
Also, there have been several cases of full blood Wagyu exported from Japan, both live and embryos or semen. True, only Wagyu from Kobe, Japan can technically be called "Kobe Beef", but a Wagyu is a Wagyu, wherever it is raised. To build up a herd quickly it's common to out-cross. The F! cross is 1/2 wagyu, F2 3/4, F3 is 7/8, and F4 is 94% percent, which is good enough for purebred status, and indistinguishable from a Full Blood which is pedigreed. I've seen lots of non-Japanese wagyu that can compete with local product in terms of marbling. Most of it from the family ranch (www.morganranchinc.com) but also a lot of nice product from Australia and Chille.

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por mucho marmoleado que tenga la carne de austyralia y chile y dinamarca o irlanda el sabor final de la carne nunca sera el mismo , perio aun asi cualquiera de estas otras aunque no sean 100% raza kobe , son kobe style y por la diferencia de precio es preferible adqurir una de estas , el kobe 100% es un producto infravalorado , existen aproximadamente 150 granjas de wagyu de piel negra que se dedican a especular con el llamado "kobe style" se parece a lo que ocurre con el cerdo iberico de bellota , el precio con respecto al cerdo blanco aqui en españa es 5 veces superior, por no hablar de lo que pagan en otros paises la exportacion de estos tipos de carne es una gran estafa , prefiero un buen cerdo criado con productos de "casa " en una aldea o con una carne de vacuno procedente de una expotacion insignificante cuya alimentacion no ha sido manipulada con ormonas o anabolizantes y su precio esta al alcance de cualquier persona
un abrazo desde españa

 

For a long marmoleado have meat of austyralia and chile and Denmark or Ireland the final flavor of the meat never be the same , session even so any of these other even if they are not 100% race kobe , are kobe style and for the price difference is preferable's reception you can purchase one of these , the kobe 100% is a product undervalued , there are approximately 150 farms of wagyu black-skinned who are dedicated to speculate with the so-called 'kobe style' is similar to what happens with the iberian pig beautiful
 
for many marmoleado that has the meat of austyralia and chili and dinamarca or irlanda the final flavor of the meat will never be the same, perio nevertheless any of these others although it is not 100 % race kobe, they are kobe style and for the price difference one of these is a preferable adqurir, the kobe 100 % is an undervalued product, there exist approximately 150 farms of wagyu of black skin that devote themselves to speculate on the called one 'kobe style' it looks alike to what happens with the Iberian acorn pig(pork,glutton), the price with regard to the white pig(pork,glutton) here in Spain is 5 times a Superior, for not speaking about what they pay in other countries the exportation of these types of meat it is a big one he defrauds, I prefer a good pig(pork) raised with products of 'house' in a village or with a meat of cattle proceeding from an insignificant expotation which feeding has not been manipulated with ormonas or anabolic steroids and its price this one within reach of any person <br> a hug from Spain <br> <br>
 
by far marmoleado who has beef and austyralia and chile and Denmark or Ireland the final taste of the meat never will be the same, perio even so any of these other but they are not 100% race kobe is kobe style and the price difference is preferable to adqurir one of these, the kobe 100% is an underrated product, there are approximately 150 farms wagyu black skin who are dedicated to speculate with the so-called 'kobe style' is looks like what happens with the Iberian Acorn-fed pork, the price for the white pig here in Spain is 5 times higher, not to mention what you pay in other countries the export of these types of meat is a big scam, I prefer a good pigs with products of 'House' in a village or a meat of cattle from a negligible expotacion whose food has not been manipulated with ormon or anabolic and its price is available to anyone
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hug from Spain



-- Edited by apcowboy on Saturday 24th of December 2011 09:42:33 AM

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